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Man born a woman is first in UK to give birth

Discussion in 'Midwifery News' started by riffraff, Feb 12, 2012.

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  2. Sunny Well-Known Member

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    Headline as misleading as ever *rolls eyes*
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    Josephine Quintavalle, Ann Widdecombe and Trevor Stammers sticking their nose in as usual because it doesn't fit their traditional and 'christian' values. The same people who on numerous occasions have suggested the children of homosexuals will be 'damaged'.

    Is the title misleading though? I read it as a man who was biologically born female to give birth, plus it uses the term sex change.
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    I'm actually stunned and disgusted by the transphobic comments after the article (though to be expected with the DF).

    'But others said that the welfare of the baby is paramount and queried how the child will deal with even the simplest of issues, such as whether to call the man ‘Mummy’ or ‘Daddy’.


    Errrr.... how is that difficult? He is a man.
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    It actually baffles me, I sit here for good periods of time attempting to understand the attitudes of some people, I rarely encounter people with actual prejudice towards the LGBTQ community (and even then, they are often reserved and respectful, simply suggesting they don't agree) and yet comments such as "Its a freaky chick with a beard, not a man, pity for the child having to explain whats up with 'Mum' all its life"... gets 32 'thumbs up', is that on the internet peoples anonymity allow them to express their actual nature and ugliness, or are there pockets of such people that I thankfully don't encounter in my every day life?

    Im not even angry or upset, just really really confused.
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    Only my opinion, but Id rather this couple had their children this way than so very bloomin many of the utter horrors Ive had to work with who dont give a moments thought to the creation of life or the care and love that should go hand in hand with it.
    This child has been deeply wanted and will hopefully grow up in the midst of love, support and encouragement. Which is something that many thousands of children growing up in more traditional family units would give anything to have.
    And yes, I think the anonymity allows many people to feel they can say what they like, regardless of the hurt or trouble it could cause.
    Perhaps one day the biter will be the bitten- and I bet they wouldnt like it one bit.
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    :iagree: having seen the behaviour and attitudes of some the parents on that Protecting our Children' programme I think this baby is very lucky to be so wanted and born into a family who loves it, no matter who the parents are. DF readers amaze and disgust me :(
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    LOL - "it has not been disclosed whether the child is a boy or a girl" - really? They don't think the great big bow on her dress gives it away at all? Ah, maybe I am being prejudiced by assuming that only baby girls wear dresses? :rofl:

    Otherwise though, I think it's another case of could people please get a life! Look how HAPPY he looks in the photos. I've seen a lot of conventional parents on newspaper photos looking much more preoccupied with how they look than with the baby sitting in front of them, but he looks pure love, doesn't he?
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    I think the photo is of the American family they also speak about, the British one has no other details disclosed.

    My point on the headline being misleading is more to do with the sensationalising of it all which is so characteristic of the daily fail. I can't bear to look at the comments - this paper brings out the very worst people in society.

    I don't question how happy the child will be because it is clearly wanted judging by the efforts went to to be pregnant but I have to say (ducks) I don't see why people should be able to pick and choose the perceived 'best bits' of each gender. He was born a woman and had surgery to be a man (the gender he believes he is really) but now when it suits him, he gets pregnant.
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    I think we're moving slowly, very slowly, towards a society where it's accepted that there's more than just two genders, and accepting that. I have a friend who transitioned from male to female but they consider themselves sort of non-gendered, or maybe inter-gendered (they prefer the pronoun "they", for example). I think if people are more comfortable acting in a certain way then they should be allowed to, but we shouldn't say "now you have to conform to a different stereotype".

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